Great game last night!

[Farseer Kyladras]

Played a 2k points per side game last night, my Eldar and a friend's space marines (1000 points each) vs a 2000 point marine army. I am loving the new Eldar codex, especially the battle focus rule which gave my fire dragons a first turn of killing his bike mounted captain (ran 6" after disembarking from wave serpent then unleashed 9 fusion guns into him and his retinue. Most of the squad would have died had it not been for them all having storm shields meaning the wound that actually did get through vapourised his warlord so 2 vps from the first shots of the game

After that things got really messy, his assault terminators killing my wraithlord and fire dragons (note to self: ignore the slow moving terminators that can't shoot you next time lol) turn 3 my autarch with swooping hawk wings and fusion gun arrived from deep strike behind a demolisher cannon armed tank and casually blew it up, he then withstood the firepower from a land raider (? vengeance pattern) and the biker retinue surviving on his last wound, just long enough to take the land raider out next turn before finally getting boltered to death by angry bikers!

End of the game it was a total of 5 victory points to the Eldar/ Mon keigh alliance and 0 points to the enemy, cracking game with a very sporting opponent (Ash) and we're going to do same alliance/ opponent next month with more points

Oh and the bladestorm rule is ace, popped a few terminators with sneaky jetbike shuriken fire

FK

[Max_Dammit]

Just stay away from the cheddar in that dex if you want to keep some gaming buddy's

[Farseer Kyladras]

Cheddar being multiple (or even single) wraithknights? Or jetseer lists (presumably farseer/ warlocks mounted on jetbikes?) and lots of wraithguard?

I don't plan on any of that, I don't think I'll ever be getting a wraithknight and only plan on using a single squad of 5 wraithguard so I hopefully won;t get all cheesy lol and also, to be honest, I am just simply not a good enough player to play in such a fashion, even if you give me the cheesiest list imaginable I would probably find some way to lose with it

Good job I just play friendly games for the love of the game and the social aspect of it and not simply to win then eh lol 

FK

[Geifer]

I don't think anyone complains about Wraithguard (or their close combat variety) since the only thing they've got going for them is high toughness. Well, maybe the flamer dudes, because of their AP, but I don't think I've read any complaint about that either.

You want to avoid Wave Serpent spam, Jetseer death stars and multiple Wraithsknights. Those I think are the things that currently have people riled up.

Not that it matters, really, as long as the people you play with don't have a problem with what you're playing.

[Farseer Kyladras]

Feb 17, 2014 9:26:22 GMT Geifer said:

You want to avoid Wave Serpent spam, Jetseer death stars and multiple Wraithsknights. Those I think are the things that currently have people riled up.

Death stars... Jetseers....

I think I must be getting old, either that or teh hobby community worldwide is making new words and phrases up to confuse me   I have read a lot lately about death stars (no idea what the 40k/ gaming definition of this is!) and also things like `blobs` (large infantry units?) and if I hear one more person on youtube doing 40k videos of any sort referring to the word `meta` I am going to scream!!!

FK

[paladin7221]

'Deathstar' is as the name implies a term that describes an uber-killy unit of Doom. For example a bunch of assault terminators or Honour Guard with attached chaplain and chapter master bombing out of a Crusader to duff anyone up. Usually massively points-heavy but almost guaranteed to crush whatever it's thrown at.
Nob bikers, when the last ork codex dropped, were also immediately tagged as a Deathstar unit. Probably still are.

And a 'blob' is indeed a huge-ass squad, usually a full Guard platoon or a wave of cultists/ork boys with more bodies than your lads have ammunition. You won't kill them all in one go. Small 'nids are also perfect for this.

[Farseer Kyladras]

While I am in `gaming phrases that annoy me` mode I am sick to death of hearing people witter on about `mechdar` and `footdar` Yes I get it that you don't want to type (or say) Mechanised Eldar or Eldar on foot and those phrases are kinda catchy they are also overused to a ridiculous degree...

FK

[paladin7221]

I'm guessing you won't be a fan of 'Tau-dar' then?

[Farseer Kyladras]

Oh yeah, taudar I forgot that one and I'm sure more will crop up in my fevered brain soon...

FK

[Geifer]

I contemplated adding Taudar to the list, but I thought it was not relevant to you. But now that I think about it, you never know, perhaps the unassuming Farseer K got naughty with an Ethereal and is looking into creating Taudar after all...

Honestly it doesn't surprise me to see all these terms. Building gaming lingo has a long tradition. Longer than GW sells SM, probably longer than WD even. What's an RPG without a GM or a D20? Can't do nothing about it but  write out the words yourself and hope to be a good example.

[Farseer Kyladras]

Feb 18, 2014 9:34:38 GMT Geifer said:

Honestly it doesn't surprise me to see all these terms. Building gaming lingo has a long tradition. Longer than GW sells SM, probably longer than WD even. What's an RPG without a GM or a D20? Can't do nothing about it but  write out the words yourself and hope to be a good example.

Yeah that's a good way to look at it I guess, it just seems that some folk (especially on youtube) throw the terms around as often as they possibly can (which is waaaaay too often in some cases! 

FK

[Stretch]

Just don't start hashtagging them or there's likely to be a small mushroom cloud in the tottenham area of London where my head used to be.

You're not a Google search engine. Stop talking like one

[Farseer Kyladras]

Feb 18, 2014 10:09:59 GMT Stretch said:

You're not a Google search engine. Stop talking like one

Amen to that brother 

FK

[Stretch]

As an aside, what's wrong with 3 wraithknights in a 2k army?

[Geifer]

From what I read, they don't die. T8 W6 3+AS on a jump pack monstrous creature is hard to take care of. You're not likely to catch it in close combat, making force weapons useless against it, it has many wounds and a good save to protect it against poison, and its toughness is so high that traditional anti tank/monstrous creature weapons wound only half of the time compared to T6 monsters. Then take that three times in your army. I think the problem here is that you then have 6 S10 AP2 (or is it 1) shots that you can expect to stick around for the whole game. Meaning you have very effective, very reliable anti tank/monstrous creature that your opponent can do little about, and that decrease the opponent's ability to do something about them with each passing turn.

Kind of like the indestructible Falcon in 4th ed, only different.

The principle applies to a number of units, or unit combinations. Riptides, Tyranid monstrous creatures (even a brood of Carnifexes hiding behind an Aegis, but definitely the W6 beasties), Heldrakes (potentially combined with Daemon Princes/Greater Daemons), some units are so tough that you either ignore them and then have fierce counter attacks to fear from things you cannot harm in any meaningful way, or you concentrate all your efforts on them but leave the rest of the opposing army untouched. They are combinations that add more durability and reliability than is reflected in their points. Kind of like a less killy Death Star, but with a metal grate over the reactor exhaust.

It's just that Eldar along with Tau do it best and therefore catch most of the love flying around the Internet at the moment.