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Post by Geifer on Jan 23, 2014 14:57:29 GMT
Have a look at this, if you would: First, apologies for the rather dim picture. That's what passes for daylight today. On to what this is about. Above is the base of Deathknell Watch, which I opted for to represent Fozzrik's Folding Fortress for my Dark Elves (color scheme sample to the right). The rocky outcrop is a darkish grayish default rock, you know the one. For the main color I chose, after reading up on basalt, a reddish brown (corroded iron in volcanic rock). And then... Yeah, that's where I got stuck. You will notice the lighter gray stone I put around the swirly pool of screaming skulls (that are going to get painted like actual skulls, just like the ones strewn around the model). Just as the GW showcase model, I want to go with a two color composition. The main color is the reddish brown you can see abundandly on the model. But which secondary color actually goes with that, and still looks like rock, stonework or somesuch - which is to say, something that looks like a natural material color instead of paint (which is something I don't see a weathered watchtower in the wilderness of the skull-laden Warhammer landscape retain very long). Initially I thought let's paint those bits gray, then drybrush them white. But I don't know, I don't think brown and white are a great comibination. Any ideas?
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Post by Stretch on Jan 23, 2014 15:43:11 GMT
Sandstone?
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The Irontooth
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Post by The Irontooth on Jan 23, 2014 16:04:48 GMT
+1
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Post by badfang on Jan 23, 2014 19:36:41 GMT
As soon as I saw the word 'iron' I thought of some lumps of rock outside the Trafford Centre in Manchester, I even had some photos of them, can't think where they are but if you put 'ironstone rock' into Google and then look at 'images' you'll be able to see it comes in all colours (purple rocks?) and patterns (flecked or candystripe?), of course this may have only changed your dilemma from 'what' to 'which' - sorry about that
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Post by Geifer on Jan 26, 2014 10:18:49 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I'll give Sandstone a little try. I bought my first pot of ochre in, umm, ten years? So I'm good to go on that, see how it looks on the model. Badfang, yeah, Google certainly did not come up with a lack of diversity. I'll have to have a look around to see what's on offer there, but I can already tell you that I will not paint rock purple. I know purple rock exists now, but I'm not sure I'm ready to make the connection in my head just like that and see rock when I look at purple bits on a model.
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Post by badfang on Jan 26, 2014 11:42:13 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I'll give Sandstone a little try. Fair enough, I'm possibly overthinking it a bit - but sandstone is a very soft rock, I mean it barely keeps any kind of definition after about a thousand years or so
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Post by Geifer on Jan 26, 2014 12:26:55 GMT
You're not overthinking it at all. Look at the official GW model. Could be Sandstone right there, and I deliberately opted against it because I have the very same concern. But that ironstone search of yours happens to come up with several pictures that look pretty much like sandstone, so I'm happy to give that color a try. Because ironstone sounds hard! Edit: Point being, I don't care what's it called as long as it looks like stone and what I associate with it involves sturdiness.
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Post by Geifer on Feb 3, 2014 15:03:01 GMT
Right, so this is where I am now. Sedimentary and ochre rock, which can pass both for ironstone and sandstone. I left a red layer in some slabs, a beige one in others and have a couple with both, and one or two with neither. What do you guys think? Good as it is? Too colorful? Not looking right at all? Perhaps I should try red rock. Anyone got anything good in that department? What do you think about the fit of ochre with gray stone? Perhaps I should repaint the gray rocks beige? I also need to paint faster, dust is already settling on the model...
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Post by Harkon Greywolf on Feb 3, 2014 15:51:10 GMT
Looks good. Maybe some gloss on the pool of blood would help?
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Post by Geifer on Feb 3, 2014 16:10:14 GMT
Oh, I forgot to mention that, HG. The pool is not done. It'll receive a coat of Blood for the Blood God and will be shiny in the end. There are most likely going to be blood splatters around the swirly pool as well. But since I paint on matt varnish to preserve the paint job, anything glossy can only be applied at the very end. Fun fact: matt varnish turns Blood for the Blood God pink. Khorne is furious, but Slaanesh approves. Thanks for the input.
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Post by badfang on Feb 3, 2014 18:49:25 GMT
Well, it's certainly brightened the place up a bit If you aren't convinced by what you've got, how about corroded brass or iron or bronze or gold plates instead of rock (which you've got plenty of anyway)?
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Post by Stretch on Feb 3, 2014 20:05:33 GMT
I like it!!
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Post by Geifer on Feb 4, 2014 13:07:03 GMT
Thanks for your opinions. Well, it's certainly brightened the place up a bit If you aren't convinced by what you've got, how about corroded brass or iron or bronze or gold plates instead of rock (which you've got plenty of anyway)? The problem is that the areas in question are sculpted to look like stone. From GW's website: Things like the doorframe, for instance. I like the subdivision in that picture and aim to paint mine similarly, whith the windows and doorframe standing out, and the top of the wall. There are actual metal bits and you can tell from the sculpt what is meant to be metal and what stone, which I don't disagree with. I'm going to paint the tower like the base for now and see how that looks. Wooden stairs and the inclusion of metal are bound to change the look a bit. Who knows, maybe I just need to hang a couple of naked chicks from the walls to make it look homely.
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Post by badfang on Feb 4, 2014 16:30:02 GMT
I hadn't realised it was an actual folding (/stacking) fortress, and TBH I'd say that GW's paint makes it look more like a gingerbread jobbie, but maybe that's just me. If you're happy with stone fair enough, for future reference though I used to do work on a factory that pumped paint down (12"/300mm bore) pipes. Occasionally I'd get to see some of the valves etc that the maintenance guys had pulled out of the system and the erosion that had gone on inside them (due to cavitation - a kind of shot-blasting, sort of) gave them a very shiny stoney kind of appearance. Once you start adding pools of blood/screaming skulls/chaos to the mix...just saying
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Post by Geifer on Feb 4, 2014 17:34:25 GMT
Cool. Yeah, that's a neat feature of the tower. It has a base the walls slot into, which will make it so much easier for me to transport. Makes it ok to paint, too, since I can wear the tower like a glove. I wish my Fortress of Redemption had been similarly convenient back when I painted it. I might be less traumatized today and get more terrain painted. I like GW's paintjob, I just don't want to repeat it. I think I'm going to tone down the gray rocks a bit by adding a couple of liters of blood. But I'll wait before deciding until the tower is painted a bit more so I get a better overall sense of how the model looks.
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