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Post by paladin7221 on Feb 28, 2014 22:35:38 GMT
Okay, have I got this right as an example of dozy GW thing or is it a mistake? (please say it's a mistake)
A Chaos Warpsmith; a rogue techmarine and scion of the Mechanicus, the one man with the power to bind daemons into machines and keep a warband functioning......
.....cannot take either a bike or a jump pack?
What kind of ass-hattery is this?
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Post by Geifer on Feb 28, 2014 23:17:48 GMT
A Chaos Warpsmith, a Rogue Techmarine and a Scion of Mars walk into a bar. Says the bartender, "ain't nobody walking out of this!" ... Dozy GW thing. The GW kind of ass-hattery. Yep, that should answer that question. Why? I can think of a number of answers. Ultimately no one can tell for sure, but let's have a look at a couple of things: 1. The design team are mortally afraid of letting players choose uber combos, having learned from 4th ed what we do with the freedom afforded us. Of course they don't catch all, whether by incompetence or design, making obvious omissions like this an exercise in futility. Maddening to us the gamers, it is. 2. The design team want to work with a limited and equalized across codices number of armory categories. When they're done assigning items to them and them to the characters in the codex, some characters miss fitting choices to prevent them from taking an unfitting choice. Maddening to us the gamers, it is. 3. The design team rseolved in 5th ed that the 5th ed army lists are the right basis for any further codex revision. Being basic, they get added to only sparingly and with great caution, lest any addition upsets the carefully crafted balance of the codex. Maddening to us the gamers, it is. 4. Management interferes and demands that only wargear choices are legal that have a model. The design team obliges. Maddening to us the gamers, it is. 5. The design team thinks it's funny to irritate Chaos players, and with each new codex devises new ways to torment faithful Chaos players. Maddening to us the gamers, it is. 6. The design team doesn't know what it's doing anymore. Maddening to... anyone? At this point, is anyone even surprised anymore?  |
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The Irontooth
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Post by The Irontooth on Mar 1, 2014 11:05:51 GMT
GW also stops giving you options and units they don't have a model for. This way preventing other companies from producing these. And why doesn't GW produce one themself I can hear you think? A Warpsmith on bike wouldn't sell that much, so not worth making a model for.
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Post by paladin7221 on Mar 1, 2014 14:01:00 GMT
But at least we could have had the scope for conversions!
I had a kick arse idea for a Warpsmith riding a biker's sidecar, but if I can't use it in a game there's no point.
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Post by Farseer Kyladras on Mar 1, 2014 14:43:12 GMT
But at least we could have had the scope for conversions! I had a kick arse idea for a Warpsmith riding a biker's sidecar, but if I can't use it in a game there's no point. Can't use it? If you have a kickass idea like that man you should run with it! Rule of cool and all that, or worst case scenario, use it as an objective marker  FK |
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Post by The Irontooth on Mar 1, 2014 15:47:30 GMT
Or use him gamewise as a Iron Warrior Lord on bike.  |
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Post by jason1977 on Mar 27, 2014 13:07:54 GMT
Just to make this more fun: A DA techy marine can take a bike but not a jump pack.
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Post by eiglepulper on Mar 28, 2014 1:30:12 GMT
Well, maybe they thought that shoving a servo arm onto the jump pack would make the jump pack unstable in flight.... You know, health and safety and all that.
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Post by Geifer on Mar 28, 2014 17:57:33 GMT
Yep. Now if you could have a servo arm on each side, it would balance out again...  |
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Post by sw1 on Mar 28, 2014 21:40:00 GMT
I imagine the extra reinforcement the armour requires for the servo arm or rig to mean they're much heavier than the standard marine hence no jump pack. Bit like you wouldn't get a TDA with a jump pack.
Lol ... But since when has 30k meant to make any sense technology wise.
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Post by badfang on Mar 28, 2014 22:03:42 GMT
Yep. Now if you could have a servo arm on each side, it would balance out again... 'Specially if you could get them flapping |
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Post by Geifer on Mar 29, 2014 16:03:06 GMT
'Specially if you could get them flapping A most excellent suggestion. I say, if we can get a Stormblebee to fly, this should be a piece of cake for the Imperium and its awe inspiring technology. |
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